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Moving the mountain []


± Mt 21:21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this [which is done] to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. Discussion

Has anyone moved a mountain by faith? []


If we read this literally, it causes doubt.

If you can't muster up the tiniest of faith to move a mountain to the sea, what makes you think you have sufficient faith for salvation?
If you haven't seen nor read about someone moving a mountain to the sea by faith alone, in 2000 years, what makes you think anyone has had faith?

The problem is invented by reading it literally. Satan used the same method of reading scripture literally when he tempted Jesus in the wilderness. [1]

Jesus was the stone that followed Israel in the desert [2] and he became the bread [3].

  1. ± Mt 4:3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
  2. ± 1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. [{followed … : or, went with them }]
  3. ± Mt 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed [it], and brake [it], and gave [it] to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. [{blessed it: many Greek copies have gave thanks }]
Faith of Christ []


'Faith' and 'believe' are overused and much maligned words in Christian circles. To sidestep popular debates, 'trust' is used instead.

Trust - to adjust one's actions in the confidence of the fidelity of a person, object, or idea. Because you believe something, you adjust your life. You trust the idea 'good is better' when you try to be good. You trust in an object when it is used for it's purpose; you sit in a chair. You trust in a person when your life is changed by their teaching, counsel, reputation, or example.

What did Jesus trust? If you assume that Jesus was a super baby because he was God, then your super baby cannot be your high priest, since he was not tempted in the same way that we are. [1] Super baby had an advantage in resisting sin.

Jesus 'closed his eyes' to his divinity. [2] He chose not to use his omnipresence, omnipotence, omniscience in order to live as we do, therefore, he did not have a divine knowledge of his divinity.

Jesus trusted his parent's word that he was the Son of God, and was astonished that they appeared not to believe it [3].

He trusted the scripture that he was God incarnate. [4]

He trusted scripture that he had to die and would be raised. [5]

These are the same things we must trust scripture for; he is whom the scriptures say he is.

  1. ± Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin.
  2. ± Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
  3. ± Lu 2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business?
  4. ± Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
  5. ± Mt 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Waters - Spirit and Truth []


'Waters' is the word mayim מים. Hebrew has something similar to our capital letters but they are used at the end of words. The letter mem מ and final mem ם have the same sound of an 'm'. They are the same, but different. Where have we heard that before? [1]

The mem, on both cases, is a letter constructed of a kof כ (son of God) and a zayin ז (the bride). There are four letters constructed of these letters.

The mem מ is the joining of the Son of God and the bride 'in heaven' It doesn't mean that we pre-existed, but that the Father chose us; he arranged the marriage; it is his promise. Pointing to the promise is the same as pointing to the Father.

The tet ט shows the Son and bride joined on earth. Indeed, their wedding is not in the rusurrection, since there is no marriage in the resurrection.

In the final mem ם the Son and bride are connected at top and bottom indicating the fuller idea that the promise of the Father is completed on earth by the Son.

The Samech ס has rounded corners in contrast to the square corners of the final mem. It to indicates that the promise of the Father is completed by the Son. The mem speaks of completing it in the flesh, and the samech of completing it in the spirit.

In 'Waters' we see the Father מ, who is Spirit [2] and the Son ם, who is truth [3].

Jesus told the woman at Sychar (at the well) that though she worshiped on the mountain (had a religion) the day would come when she would worship in Spirit and Truth. She would worship the Father and the Son. She would move the mountain to the waters (or sea).

  1. see Trinity
  2. ± Joh 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.
  3. ± Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Renouncing religion