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This is a great question to show the difference between the [[Greek]] <ref>Gentile church</ref> way to study and the way to study the 2nd book.
This is a great question to show the difference between the [[Greek]] <ref>Gentile church</ref> way to study and the way to study the 2nd book.


:1. Where did the question come from? The Greek just makes up questions <ref>{{bgw|Tit 3:9}}  But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.</ref> We wish to ensure that we are seeking to know God, not merely satisfy curiosities.
:1. Where did the question come from? The Greek just makes up questions <ref>{{bgw|Tit 3:9}}  But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.</ref> We wish to ensure that we are seeking to know God, not merely satisfy curiosities. <ref>{{bgw|Isa 43:10}}  Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I [am] he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. [{no … : or, nothing formed of God }]</ref>
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'''Close reading'''
'''Close reading'''
:'''what shall they do?''': Though grammatically, Paul may include himself in 'they', it is likely that he did not. Here is the 'penciled in' reasoning which should be studied as it's own topic: Paul knew that salvation came before baptism <ref>The Hebrews were saved by the blood before they crossed the water.</ref> and he would not have considered himself among the dead.<ref>{{bgw|Mt 22:32}}  I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.</ref>  He will say that he is in continual danger and dies daily, but he knows that he is alive in the midst of it. His religion is not of or for the dead. It is for the living. <ref>{{bgw|Mt 8:22}}  But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.</ref>
:'''what shall they do?''': Though grammatically, Paul may include himself in 'they', it is likely that he did not. Here is the reasoning which should be studied as it's own topic: Paul knew that salvation came before baptism <ref>The Hebrews were saved by the blood before they crossed the water.</ref> <ref>{{bgw|Ex 12:7}}  And they shall take of the blood, and strike [it] on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.</ref> and he would not have considered himself among the dead.<ref>{{bgw|Mt 22:32}}  I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.</ref>  He will say that he is in continual danger and dies daily, but he knows that he is alive in the midst of it. His religion is not of or for the dead. It is for the living. <ref>{{bgw|Mt 8:22}}  But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.</ref>


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:One purpose is so that we should walk in the newness of life.  Can those who have lived and then died able now to walk in newness of life if someone is baptized on their behalf?  This suggests that proxy baptisms are not the subject.
:One purpose is so that we should walk in the newness of life.  Can those who have lived and then died able now to walk in newness of life if someone is baptized on their behalf?  This suggests that proxy baptisms are not the subject.
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