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This post is completely out of context because it is a response in the middle of a thread with a very reasonable researcher and a ranting, angry atheist. Enjoy:

Sir, I like your collection, and I am a friend. However, the sandbox we play in is designed by those subscribing to Greek logic made by Greeks, who were polytheistic pagans and the rules favor an a-priori assumption that there is no God, that is, the gods were too small and bickered themselves out of existence and relevance, thereby elevating man's own reason as the ultimate authority.

Modern science has likewise bickered itself out of relevance. Hebrew logic says, "One side seems right until the other is heard". But today's logic says, "One is right as long as it can censure and silence the other."

One responder has demonstrated by ranting, that we cannot tell if it is even male or female, since it has adopted the argumentative style of the current science; and science can no longer tell us.

To your list:

Ge 50:20 placed in context are the words of a man who has a family history of knowing God. God probably handed Gen 1 to Adam on tablets the way he handed the law to Moses, thereby giving him a fully formed written language to accompany their conversations.

Passed from father to son, the tablets were added to by those who signed their names as eye-witnesses, until Babel, when the language of Adam and God were preserved because they were written down. The tablets passed to Jacob who placed them in the library in Pharaoh's house in Egypt by Joseph where they were available for Moses to copy on papyrus; retaining the signatures of the authors.

In that context, Joseph is reminding his brothers that based on that long recorded history of God dealing directly with his family, that God is sovereign. So it does not refer to that one event, but to the whole family history with God. It is like block chain in that every previous transaction is wrapped into this one.

The Greek starts out:There is no God; there is no personal history with God, so Joseph's opinion doesn't matter. This is not real science.

Unfortunately, the early Greek church had the same hostilities toward the Word of God and actually refused to read the original Hebrew texts in favor of the Greek Septuagint.

The Nicolaitans lost their first love, and adopted the doctrine of Balaam and the Judaisers, so we find the same Greek nonsense in the church as we do out.

Each testimony after your first builds on the same context. The person who cannot see the figures within the crazy cross eye 3D art, is not the expert on crazy cross eye 3D art. The one who can show you how to see it is.

So then, what is real science when it comes to the Bible?

We have a verifiable ancient record, which is essentially unchanged in 2000 years. It is the text Jesus used.

It says people talked and knew God. Science would take this as the result of a series of researchers who recorded their findings.

Next they make their own observation : Jesus said the key to Peter's revelation was the pictures of Christ hidden in the OT. It is called God's wisdom, which, by the way, is foolish to scholars. He said he's give it to you if you ask. And he said he would give the Holy Spirit to you to guide you in truth.

Now comes the experiment to try to reproduce what others have done. 1. Ask God for wisdom and his spirit. 2. Read the scriptures looking for metaphor of the cross 3. When you find one that no one has taught you, verify it with others to see if it is really there or you are just using free-for-all allegory. 4. If it is valid, you have heard from the Father.

Remember, just because you cannot see crazy cross eye 3D art, it doesn't mean it isn't there. Perhaps you did not follow the steps of the experiment.

Stop being angry that you can't see it. Anger doesn't help you see.